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[–]Scrotote 109 points110 points  (9 children)

I wouldn't recommend Reddit for news lol. It's easy to manipulate and even without "manipulation" the reddit userbase has a very narrow and self-confirming world view (like any other community does).

I recommend checking a variety of news sources, big and small, right and left, to develop your framework of current events.

[–]Kentto7 20 points21 points  (6 children)

Adding to this. Reddit sometimes doesn't show news that are relevant. People in another sub (I believe it was a top post of r/unpopularopinion ?) mentioned that they were very biased on what news would make it to the front page.

Edit : here's the post, although I believe they were other issues not covered by reddit : https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/bfq3y6/reddit_not_covering_the_sri_lanka_bombings_the/

[–]The_Troglodyte_Wins 7 points8 points  (3 children)

News makes it to the front page?

All I see is memes. It's like the worst part of Reddit and I have no idea why they let it get that bad.

[–]Im_Wearing_A_Towel 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I see news on my front page all the time, but then again a majority of the subs I follow I'm following for the news, so maybe it has to do with your list of subs?

[–]The_Troglodyte_Wins 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Go to r/all

That's the front page of someone not logged in.

[–]Im_Wearing_A_Towel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Go to r/all

I try to limit my activity on /r/all. Over the years I've specifically picked the subs I prefer so I get the Reddit experience I want. After summer 2016 it became clear the kinds of shithole subs I was blissfully ignorant about.

[–]richniggatimeline 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I agree with your sentiment, but I think that guy is way off base. We’ve never cared about triggering or not triggering Muslims with our media coverage. We just don’t care as much when it’s brown people dying.

[–]Kentto7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah, I agree with you here. To me it's not about what the person said in the post I linked, rather the fact that it doesn't get to the front page. It's a form of censorship in a way.

I would recommend to get a subscription from a good newspaper instead of using reddit, or anything free for news. I pay 6 bucks a month and I'm very happy with it. You can tell the difference between poor written free press and free for x articles / subscription based press.

[–]I_wafflestomp_daily 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ohh god yes. The worldnews is basically just "X country leader says Y. Z country agrees."

And not to mention the country subs are echo chambers of the nth degree. Where having a different opinion means downvotes. And some of the mods of the country subs are also modding worldnews. So, it ultimately results in being pathetic news source.

I recommend checking a variety of news sources, big and small, right and left, to develop your framework of current events.

That's what my dad used to do. I also try to do the same.

[–]Temporary_Selection 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The reddit subreddit system was built for confirmation bias. As for digital manipulation it is super easy on reddit. During election years the political and news subreddits are bombarded with propoganda. Posts painting x group as the enemy are massively upvoted by raids/brigades orchestrated on other websites and discord. If you're an internet lurker like me you cal literally watch people plan and execute brigades on stormfront etc. You just have to be willing to look at some shitty websites. Since govts are hopping on the propoganda in American politics and society....etc brigade I just expect this shit to get worse. People should be reading things from multiple sources.

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    [–]mantrap2 12 points13 points  (1 child)

    This is really something everyone should think about: do I even need the Internet and being "connected"?

    The answer is we all lived just fine without the Internet before the 1990s. Life existed. It was fine. There are many, many fine things that simply DO NOT work or function on-line primarily related to people things. So many face-to-face people things simple are impossible online - the value is higher in meatspace, the friendships stronger, the alliances stronger, the intimacy higher, etc.

    And then there's "the real world" which is far more interesting than any synthetic or virtual world. I shouldn't have to even explain this but these days I do - there are many bizarrely sheltered and naive people out there who don't know better.

    Except for what's required for work, I could probably live with only Netflix and iTunes Store.

    I was actually helped by moving to a place that simply has NO cellular or broadband at all (yes, here in America! MOST of America by geography has neither - it's only in cities that are the exceptions). That showed me clearly I DO NOT NEED.

    [–]wewewawa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Netflix and iTunes Store


    [–]torgaydo 14 points15 points  (6 children)

    When it comes to email, although Tutanota is in the fourteen eyes it's also open source, ProtonMail was meant to be over 2 years ago but still isn't.

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      [–]supamonkey2000[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      Available on GitHub

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        [–]torgaydo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        There's a little bit more than just the Android source code, and they intend to server-side open source soon. The clients being open source show that the encryption is implemented properly and there's nothing hidden.

        [–]eA8KESARaW6iqCpHsbE4 9 points10 points  (1 child)

        FYI, Emby is no longer open source. Jellyfin is an open source fork.

        [–]supamonkey2000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I hadn't noticed that, thanks for pointing it out. I'll take a look at Jellyfin and add it in the next edit

        [–]yieldingTemporarily 17 points18 points  (3 children)

        [–]supamonkey2000[S] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

        Thanks for pointing out privacytools.io! There is so much information on that site, I'm just going to put it near the top of the post on the next edit. Ethical.net looks really nice too.

        [–]yieldingTemporarily 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        Ethical.net does have a few things that aren't FOSS, so please research the product you're going to use

        [–]aoeudhtns 7 points8 points  (2 children)

        Don't forget web browser extensions that remove tracking variables like fbclid, utm_*, and other tokens that are used to track who shares what links with whom, from URLs.

        For Linux folks, here's a nice guide for workstation security which also covers 2nd factor tokens and such. Security and privacy shouldn't be confused but there is a relationship. Laptops and portable electronics are usually theft targets, so device security shouldn't be taken for granted.

        [–]supamonkey2000[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        That's a really good guide, thanks for sharing! I'll add it to the useful links section in the next edit

        [–]Abaddon182 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Fellow nerds looking for entertainment, I highly recommend the Security Now! podcast. Excellent coverage of advanced tech news and the latest vulnerabilities and hacks which usually involves privacy.


        [–]FusionTorpedo 16 points17 points  (2 children)

        For YouTube - Invidio.us is way better than hooktube. Ungoogled-chromium should be listed first under Chrome, since it's literally Chrome that is de-googled. NoBlogs.org is a private blogging service. Add Swisscows to translators; DeepL is not good for privacy at all.

        I don't recommend including self-hosted stuff for newbies looking to degoogle. Try Disroot cloud under GDrive.

        [–]fedeb95 5 points6 points  (13 children)

        Thanks for the effort of putting this together. When it comes to chats, the hard part is getting friends on board. I'd love a giude for that. Managed to bring most of my friends from whatsapp to telegram (but mostly to talk with myself. I'm pretty happy about it though). Now I'd like to switch to signal but I don't think they'll follow me

        [–]outverto 3 points4 points  (12 children)

        Well, Telegram has plenty of interesting features that differentiate from WhatsApp.

        Signal on the other side is a very basic program. It has E2EE and that's basically all. It's missing some differentiators telling people why they should use it. I don't see telling them that it also supports SMS is making a big difference.

        (I'm preferring Signal for personal or business use but it's hard to convince people.)

        [–]Yeazelicious 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        One of these interesting features is that they roll their own home-brewed encryption scheme and still haven't open-sourced their server-side code, hence I still use Signal.

        [–]outverto 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Well, there are "disadvantages" from Telegram as well. However, I still trust them more than WhatsApp.

        Telegram is very good for group chats, channels, bots and whatever you write in Telegram you need to be aware of the facts that it's more a social media network now than a messenger.

        If you need to share really private info it's better to use Signal.

        [–]fedeb95 0 points1 point  (9 children)

        I'm not very happy about it being somwhat russian. Probably from this point of view matrix is still the best one because of open source server code

        [–]outverto 2 points3 points  (4 children)

        Well, it always depends on the threat model. Mine is basically just getting away from the mass surveillance of FB, Google and the likes without getting in too much trouble of setting up servers or becoming an hermit.

        Telegram will probably serve the need as it allows to give less data to Google and Facebook. Of course, one need to trust Durov in order to use the service.

        being somewhat Russian...

        At least it's not an American company.

        [–]fedeb95 0 points1 point  (3 children)

        Yes I think the same way, that's why I'm using telegram after all and don't bother so much about it. Now that Facebook is up with its big move of merging everything and getting payments, no way I'm using WhatsApp

        [–]outverto 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        I'm still with WhatsApp for a few contacts and planning to make a change before end of this year.

        Luckily I convinced most part of my family to use Signal. So, plan is to go with Telegram and Signal killing WhatsApp with the time.

        [–]fedeb95 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Yeah I still have WhatsApp too but not really using it, just for those occasional contacts. Not a big deal, after all if you don't give information...

        [–]DashEquals 1 point2 points  (3 children)

        I'm not very happy about it being somwhat russian.

        It's really not. The founder fled Russia and the Russian government has no power over it.

        [–]fedeb95 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        Didn't know that. The main point is that server side code is closed source though

        [–]DashEquals 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Yeah, I'm not a fan of that, I was just pointing out the Russian thing.

        [–]fedeb95 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Thanks for that. If I have time I'll research a bit more

        [–]ElectricalLeopard 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        /u/supamonkey2000 CopperheadOS faced a forced takeover attempt by its sales manager, which fired the creator and tried to force him to hand over the signing keys for them to release their own signed updates.

        He destroyed the keys as the only logical answer. The sourcecode is still there and there were some legitimate attempts from the community to maintain them - but nothing "official".

        CopperheadOS should not be recommended anymore and there likely will never be any official builds anymore. If there are any from the company itself you should never trust them.


        [–]questionsrx 4 points5 points  (3 children)

        [–]avEmonsta 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        What would you recommend for news?

        [–]Newblik 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        /u/avEmonsta /u/questionsrx

        What do you think about using Hacker News for technical news? No shitty ads on hacker news( if they are ads they are from posts, not from an ad system); reddit uses google services and amazon services and tracking software.



        The intention was to recreate a community similar to the early days of Reddit.[2][8] However unlike Reddit where new users can immediately both up-vote and down-vote content, Hacker News does not allow users to down-vote content until they have accumulated 501 "karma" points. Karma points are calculated as the number of upvotes a given user's content has received minus the number of downvotes.[2] "Flagging" comments, likewise, is not permitted until a user has 30 karma points.[9]

        Graham has stated he hopes to avoid the Eternal September that results in the general decline of intelligent discourse within a community.[4] The site has a proactive attitude in moderating content, including automated flame and spam detectors. It also practices stealth banning in which user posts stop appearing for others to see, unbeknownst to the user.[10] Additional software is employed to detect "voting rings to purposefully vote up stories".[2]

        Unfortunately, hackernews content is curated and moderated

        See: Wikipedia article on hackernews> Criticism

        According to a 2013 TechCrunch article: "Graham says that Hacker News gets a lot of complaints that it has a bias toward featuring stories about Y Combinator startups, but he says there is no such bias. [...] Graham adds that he gets a lot of vitriol from users personally with accusations of bias or censoring."[2]

        [–]questionsrx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        What would you recommend for news?

        I am hardly an expert at this but we need to recognize that you and I NEVER get the REAL news. We only get brainwashing and distractions and propaganda from the media. Financial news is best if ignored because it leads you to make bad decisions, so forget that one. Strategically, it is best to completely ignore political news too. Science, medical and technical news are best acquired from specialized sources that aggregate such news, if you are interested in them. Global news is best acquired from the media in a country where the US and the Western world have no interest. If something major like 9-11 happens, we will hear it one way or the other. We don't get real news - they tell us only what they want us to hear so we can be manipulated one way or the other.

        [–]Mudlex 10 points11 points  (1 child)

        This is a huge thread and defo needed to stop people asking the same questions over and over again. Think this should be stickied if im honest. I think you should make a small change though and remove Vivaldi since they are anything but privacy-focused. I think should also link up the privacy-related sites that give information.

        [–]trai_dep 10 points11 points  (0 children)

        Isn't it great?

        We were planning on letting it float organically for a day or so, then sticky it so it stays up for about a week. We'll also be adding this new article to the older one that u/supamonkey2000 wrote for our Peerless Privacy FAQ several months ago.

        [–]0111010101110011 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Awesome write up and suggestions! Thanks!

        There's also /r/degoogle now to help find google replacements.

        [–]Etchebetch 5 points6 points  (6 children)

        Ecosia may plant trees, but still it will communicate your IP address with your search terms to Microsoft Bing. It's part of a global tendency to replace the really important social problems with innocuous and unimportant ecology concerns.

        Firefox and Brave have multiple privacy issues serious enough that you shouldn't advertise them as privacy friendly at all.

        [–]supamonkey2000[S] 4 points5 points  (5 children)

        I've seen many people mention how Firefox (which is built by Mozilla who's tagline is "the privacy company") isn't good for privacy. Many other websites including privacytools.io list it as their top recommendation.

        Anyone who has brought up privacy concerns (other than Pocket, Sync, and anonymous crash reports) has yet to provide me with links that explain this. If you can provide me with links, I will be more than happy to add them to the list and add a summary of the concerns. Until that happens I will keep Firefox as is.

        [–]Itsij 3 points4 points  (3 children)

        A non exhaustive list of privacy problems with Firefox. Google is the default search engine. What is typed in the address bar is sent to the search engine letter by letter. Firefox tells Google what binaries you download. Firefox will tell third parties what links you click on with hyperlink auditing. Telemetry (not crash reports) is opt-out. It will even include browsing data. It is not anonymous because data is sent with your IP address, you are just trusting them to anonymize your data, and data can't be safely anonymized anyway. Furthermore, any opt-out data collection about your actions is a violation of your privacy rights even if it could be really anonymized. Firefox does even send your data to third-parties for analytics. Here are some of the trackers in Firefox mobile :


        Adjust, Google Ads, Google DoubleClick, Google Firebase Analytics, LeanPlum. Firefox has experiments on by default which allows them to silently modify the browser remotely and they already used this in the past to install the Cliqz spyware on some of their users. Firefox will send all browser DNS queries to its Cloudflare partner. These features can be disabled, but they are all enabled by default. And defaults matter.

        [–]supamonkey2000[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        Thanks, I'll read over that and add it to both the Useful Links and also attach it to the Firefox listing. I don't want to completely remove it, but I will add a disclaimer.

        [–]SupremeLisper 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Fennec(fdroid), bromite and privacy browser(fdroid) are better alternatives. Only con with bromite is this one doesn't have extensions. Privacy browser is based on webview so has some limitations + no extensions but it has lots of powerful privacy controls.

        * privacy browser will switch to their webview fork in v4.x

        [–]supamonkey2000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I was about to add Fennec in the next edit, thanks for sharing the others!

        [–]Nuad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I'd like to add this web browsers' comparison sorted by privacy

        [–]yeah_It_dat_guy 4 points5 points  (2 children)

        Is Zoho privacy focused? Or they just an alternative to Google/Gmail. Was looking for a (free) email provider that is privacy focused and offered a good amount of space. Hard to beat the 15gigs Gmail offers didn't know if Zoho was more privacy focused or just an alternative.

        [–]supamonkey2000[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Good question. Zoho is an odd one as they are not explicitly privacy focused, however consistently across their site I see them claiming that they do not sell your info.

        They are outside 14-eyes jurisdiction as well. I'm keeping them for now as I haven't found any major privacy concerns that have been made public.

        [–]yeah_It_dat_guy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Good stuff. At the same time Google doesn't sell data either, just uses it to data mine the sh*t out of everyone.

        [–]pfaccioxx 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        Do any of these allow people who hate google to bypass ReCapcha?

        [–]supamonkey2000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I haven't been able to find anything or crack it myself just yet. It's definitely one of the tougher ones.

        [–]drinks_rootbeer 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        Startpage offers a mail service, startmail. They offer some pretty good features.

        [–]Safe_Airport 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I'd buy it instantly, if it weren't so expensive :(

        [–]wesaphzt 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        Great work!

        For YouTube I'd recommend the FreeTube application which uses Invidious.

        Could do with a little polishing, but not a bad alternative and prevents any Javascript-based web tracking.


        I'll also shamelessly plug my script for any Linux users that want to block Google at the network level.


        Edit: also some useful resources for hardening Firefox:




        [–]supamonkey2000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Awesome, thanks for sharing! I'll add these in the next edit

        [–]SomeoneWannaBe 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        I would like to add this Authenticator in the list for iOS devices. https://github.com/mattrubin/Authenticator

        [–]supamonkey2000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Thanks for sharing, I'll add it to the list in the next edit

        [–]trai_dep 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        This is awesome. Appreciate all this hard work!

        Remind us in a couple days to sticky this post so that it will be up for a week. :)

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          [–]supamonkey2000[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

          Have you used the built-in RDP server on Windows? You'll have to be using some form of Pro/Ultimate/Enterprise/etc.

          On Linux (Manjaro specifically) I've used Remmina as a client, but you also need to add the RDP plugin for the RDP protocol (this can be found on AUR).

          The AUR also has some RDP server options, but I haven't looked into these yet.

          For privacy, I'd say hosting RDP yourself is best for privacy since it won't be routed through a 3rd party server, but make sure you secure them well enough.

          [–]Sheezdudeln 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          searx.me - Open-source (need clarification)

          Source code, with license: https://github.com/asciimoo/searx

          List of known instances: https://github.com/asciimoo/searx/wiki/Searx-instances

          [–]supamonkey2000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Awesome, thanks! I'll update that in the next edit

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            [–]supamonkey2000[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

            That's a huge thing for lots of people, myself included. I find that using the 3rd party youtube frontends is a good way to browse and watch YouTube without using the actual site.

            Invidious is pretty good I find. However, keep in mind that you probably won't be able to post comments on videos (but that should be expected when trying to get away from using Google services).

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              [–]supamonkey2000[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

              That's what I thought at first too, then I recognized a creator I've watched a few times.

              I searched up my friends small vlog channel he runs and he showed up. All the videos were viewable and it worked great.

              Best part: it didn't trigger ANY of my ad blockers or tracker blockers, so they're not running any sketchy libraries or ads.

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                [–]supamonkey2000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                I haven't found an app for Invidious, but NewPipe is an awesome 3rd party app for Android. I've linked it in the Mobile Apps section.

                [–]Abaddon182 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Worst part for me is I depend on a Roku box to watch YouTube shows and podcasts on my TV. Any alt-tech sites are inaccessible content on Roku unless I rely on screen mirroring a mobile browser which is not great. Alt-tech sites need to start developing apps for all devices imo otherwise YouTube will never die.

                [–]vei_1 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                FreeOffice as Microsoft 365 replacment/Google Docks

                Freefor personal use

                [–]epictetusdouglas 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Free for personal or business use.

                They have a paid version with a few more options.

                LibreOffice is generally good enough for most uses, but Freeoffice/Softmaker Office is better if you need perfect stand in for MS Office that handles those files very well.

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                  [–]supamonkey2000[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                  That's a great idea! For the 100% own index, you're probably thinking of Mojeek which I am adding in the next edit.

                  [–]ipsevenenabibas 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                  For an alternative desktop/laptop OS I highly recommend checking out OpenBSD. It's not Linux, but a very well made descendant of Unix. Very secure by default. Not recommended if you are a novice to *nix systems or a gamer. But for everything else it's awesome. Hardware support is better for laptops than FreeBSD in my experience.

                  [–]oldosfan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  Try checking out Plan 9 or one of it's forks.

                  Personally I use GNU/Linux but on several machines I use OpenBSD, since it follows the traditional Unix philosophy of small simple tools that work together to do many great things. GNU has gotten a little fat over the past years.

                  [–]PantsyFanc 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                  Looking at Ubuntu Touch, and I must say I'm impressed with the app coverage. However, I can't find any information on web browsers for this OS. Will I be able to run firefox in Ubuntu Touch, or any solid alternatives?

                  [–]supamonkey2000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Surprisingly I had a hard time finding anything at all. They don't mention any built-in or native browser, and the app store results are not promising at all.

                  As much as I hate to say it they probably expect users to compile one from source. However, it's entirely possible it ships with a half-decent browser and they just chose to not advertise it.

                  [–]Reevos 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                  Android auto alternative I use is AutoMate. Seemed to be the best of what I could find, but I am not sure how much is tracked...

                  [–]supamonkey2000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  That looks good, however by Android Auto I mean the in-car built into the dashboard.

                  [–]PAxlFitz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  HERE WeGo is an alternative to Google Maps for Android. I use it and it works OK.

                  [–]Newblik 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                  Possible alternative to Google Analytics:

                  Matomo(formerly called Piwik Analytics)



                  Matomo (Piwik) is the leading open source web analytics software used on more than one million websites in 200 countries. But when there are also dozens of other free and paid web analytics solutions, why choose Matomo? One of the principle advantages of Matomo is that you are in control. Unlike remote-hosted services (such as Google Analytics, Webtrends or Adobe Analytics), you host Matomo on your own server and the data is tracked inside your Mysql database. Because Matomo is installed on your server, you enjoy full control over your data. You can access the data easily via the Matomo APIs. Advanced users can use Custom Dimensions, Segmentation, or even run manual queries on the database in order to build advanced reports. Matomo can be used to measure your websites, your mobile applications, your software applications, and can also be used on your intranet portals and intranet websites.

                  Matomo (Piwik) also protects your visitor privacy with advanced Privacy features. When using Matomo for Web Analytics, you ensure that your visitors behaviour on your website(s) is not shared with advertising companies.

                  Disclaimer: I am not sure if Matomo is privacy friendly.

                  This wikipedia article claims Matomo is free(as in freedom and libre software) and open source.


                  Matomo's parent company is Innocraft Ltd.

                  The address of Innocraft Ltd. is in New Zealand. Therefore Matomo should be marked as 14 eyes.


                  [–]supamonkey2000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Thanks for the suggestion (and for pointing out the 14-eyes)! I'll add it in the next edit

                  [–]oldosfan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  You should probably add microG, which is free (as-in-freedom "open source") software that allows programs requiring Google Play Services to run without it.

                  As for mobile assistants, there's always https://mycroft.ai/. They have an experimental Android app that you will (unfortunately) have to build from source.

                  [–]Nytrixus 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                  Can any of those things provide me a number I can use to call and text anywhere in the country for free?

                  [–]supamonkey2000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  No, and unfortunately that's not the point of this guide.

                  I have used a few apps on both iOS (iPhone 5C many years ago) and Android that claim to give you a free number, but none of them are privacy focused and are typically really shady. On each one I tried, I could do a lookup of the number they gave and it was an active number in use by someone else who had it legitimately. So when they give you a free number, they are just spoofing someone's existing number. That explained why I got random texts from people who were meaning to reach the actual owner and how the actual owner got messages meant for me.

                  Didn't mean to write something this long, just wanted to share my experience.

                  [–]flobin 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                  Ooh, this is great. I recently started trying to cut Google out of my life. The only replacement I haven't been able to make is Google Maps, specifically making my own from within Google Drive. Does anybody have any solutions for this?

                  A suggestion for transit: Transit App. I'm not sure how this compares to other apps, but it works great for transit, you don't have to make an account, and they don't seem to track too many things.

                  [–]supamonkey2000[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                  I'm not sure what you mean by "from within Google Drive".

                  I agree that Maps is one of the harder ones to replace. Simply put: No one easily rivals Google's navigation on web or mobile. There are somewhat good replacements, and they will probably get you to your destination, it just takes a bit of work.

                  Transit looks pretty cool, I'll check it out

                  [–]flobin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  In Google Drive you can make your own maps, with custom markers and routes and stuff like that. You can then load them in your phone. Very handy for traveling.

                  [–]Qik00 1 point2 points  (4 children)

                  What if i cant replace the OS because of multiple reasons ?

                  [–]supamonkey2000[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

                  In the Useful links section, there are a few links to articles for hardening and securing Windows 10. There's a few for Linux as well, I'm just assuming you are locked to Windows 10.

                  Potentially another solution may be installing a virtual machine and just doing all your work through a Linux VM, but that's up to you and depends on how much admin access you have and how much configuration you want to do.

                  [–]Qik00 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                  I meant i cant change OS on my phone, my PC is running Linux

                  [–]supamonkey2000[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                  Ahhh I see. Are you using iOS or Android?

                  in useful links there's a link for jailbreaking iPhones (you'll have to have a specific device) or for Android there's a few links for securing it.

                  My phone can't be rooted either (LG G7) so I try to use only open source apps. There's a link for removing bloatware for android that I've used to completely (I think) remove Google apps such as Docs, Drive, Sheets etc etc as well as LG bloatware. Once your done the steps on that article, you can find the apps in Settings still but the "Disable" button will actually finalize removing it. I'm working on a small guide but we're doing a massive rollout at work so I haven't had time yet.

                  [–]Qik00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  I have the Samsung Note 9 (only reason being the stylus) i have the Package Disabler Pro app and i also removed some bits using ADB, i can root technically but i would loose a warranty that grants me a free screen replacement, once it runs out i will root propably.

                  I am not brainded to buy an iphone...

                  [–]pmt541 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  When I went on my last vacation, I also used a VPN for the first time, so I felt "happy" to have learnt to use it. I know its not a big deal, but its a start. I used Mullvard VPN.

                  I have found that I am unable to find good alternatives to Google Maps app and Citymapper app on android. The ones on the f-droid store just aren't reliable enough for me to use on a regular basis. I am content for now because how you remove yourself from Google or other services is a process, not a switch, so it takes time. I have successfully migrated some other services to open source services, for example, using duckduckgo.

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                    [–]supamonkey2000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    There isn't any overall best; the best is the one that works best for you. Check out all the options listed under "Android/Fuschia" and see which one you like the most.

                    [–]FjjB 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Great to see Mojeek included on the list, noting the importance of not only a privacy orientated search engine, but one that's independent from all others with it's own index of web pages and algorithms. Nice one!

                    [–]FruityWelsh 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                    Visual Studio code syncs up with Microsoft server quite often, it's kind of annoying.

                    [–]supamonkey2000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    That is correct. In the next edit I'm changing that to become VSCodium which is VSCode but "without MS branding/telemetry/licensing".

                    [–]FreeTubeDev 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                    Hey there!

                    Wanted to make a small correction that FreeTube is a desktop application and not a mobile app. Thank you for your effort in compiling a list like this.

                    [–]supamonkey2000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Woops, didn't notice where I put it. Thanks for letting me know, I'll fix that in the next edit!

                    [–]SheepKid12 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                    Hosting a mirror or cloning the repo

                    I'm automatically mirroring to GitLab (for anyone wondering, I made the icon myself).

                    Use DNSPerf to see which one is fastest for you

                    DNSPerf doesn't show how fast a DNS is for you, it shows an average from multiple tests from around the world.

                    [–]supamonkey2000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Thanks for the mirror!

                    I'll clarify DNSPerf in the next edit.

                    [–]rudolf323 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Can anyone share IPs of Google Chrome's telemetry services?

                    btw, /u/supamonkey2000 you could have recommended WindowsSpyBlocker tool also, it has IP list which blocks many spy IPs, I don't know about MS office telemetry though. + Here's another good tutorial to block all spying and telemetry in latest Windows 1903 version.

                    Also a good youtube alternative is bit.tube, it is very similar to d.tube.

                    For email another alternative is - unseen.is

                    uMatrix plugin - uBlock for power users, you can block and allow certain domains, scripts, frames, etc.

                    [–]4zkrHo9oRE 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                    Can you add KeePassXC as an Autheticator app. KeePassXC has an TOTP option that is great to use

                    [–]supamonkey2000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    I'll take a look and probably add it in the next edit. Thanks!

                    [–]whyvitamins 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Great post and all, that will surely cause more good than harm, but isn't "NO CLOSED SOURCE SOFTWARE" literally the number 1 rule of this subreddit.... I mean surely Telegram, Protonmail and the likes put a huge emphasis on privacy and some of them have literally built their entire business model on the premise of privacy, but sadly all closed-source is created equal, and we cannot verify their claims, hence the 1st rule of this subreditt...

                    [–]FriendlyJack 1 point2 points  (6 children)

                    Where does Outlook.com fall on this? Less evil than Google?

                    [–]supamonkey2000[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

                    Outlook is owned and operated by Microsoft, so I personally wouldn't suggest it.

                    As for Microsoft's privacy concerns, I haven't had much time to look into it but they are a "tech superpower" so I'd use caution with their services.

                    [–]FriendlyJack 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                    Google really freaks me the hell out lately. I want out of their cloud, but I want to replace it with a user friendly alternative. I get that proton mail and such is the safest, but in terms of usability, they aren't that great.

                    Microsoft feels less creepy since they're mostly enterprise oriented. It's mostly business with them. They also mostly stay away from politics.

                    Unless you can give me a good reason to really stay away from them, that's my main candidate.

                    I find Google really, really creepy. Anything else would be an improvement.

                    Thanks for putting this together, by the way. It's fantastic.

                    [–]wewewawa 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                    [–]FriendlyJack 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Holy shit...

                    Thanks for the link, even though it didn't make me feel better about email in general.

                    Do these same messed up rules apply to their office 365 service for businesses? Surely they have some different kind of policy that protects company secrets for that.

                    The problem is, even if you switch to a secure service like Protonmail, you're still sending and receiving mail from people on Gmail and others. You can't really escape it unless you both get on a secure system.

                    [–]HarrisonOwns 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    He's only concerned with hiding from the repercussions of spreading hate speech and white supremacist propaganda.

                    He's not afraid for his privacy for any legitimate purposes.

                    [–]-Choose-A-User- 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                    Please don't use LastPass. They had password leaks in 2015, 2017, and had a potential breach sometime early this year, or late last year, and had to go offline for 2-3 days. Though, strangely I can't find anything about it. I remember because my networking teacher used LastPass and we couldn't have class the entire time it was down because his school passwords were saved to it.

                    Anyways, I strongly recommend Bitwarden for sync and KeePass as a backup, in case Bitwarden ever goes down. Both are open source, have great reputations, and support every platform.

                    [–]supamonkey2000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    You and /u/EbonixCo have convinced me to switch to Bitwarden. It easily imported my Lastpass CSV and the premium plan is much cheaper.

                    So far it's been just as good if not better than Lastpass.

                    [–]EbonixCo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Wouldn’t be surprised to find out they spent a good amount of money covering up those stories.

                    [–]samwelnella 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Since you’re looking for iOS alternatives too for YouTube I’d suggest OpenTube. There’s no sign in and you manage subscriptions locally on device. Supports subscription view, background playback, PiP and downloading videos. There’s no prebuilt IPA though so gotta compile it yourself using Xcode.

                    [–]masao77 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    For Gmaps/Waze alternatives, you should add OSMAnd (available on F-Droid)

                    [–]solbaKK6 1 point2 points  (0 children)


                    How is firefox own thunderbird in case of privacy and comfort?

                    [–]RedDoon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Google Keyboard?

                    [–]stormtrooperarc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Thanks so much for all this information, I greatly appreciate it. I am always looking for viable alternatives to Google/Microsoft products.

                    [–]privacyfreak555 1 point2 points  (4 children)

                    I'd add Trisquel , Gentoo Linux and Alpine Linux there into the privacy distro list :)

                    [–]supamonkey2000[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

                    I've heard of Gentoo but not the others, thanks for sharing! I'll add them in the next edit

                    [–]Safe_Airport 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                    Could you add Parrot OS? It's made by the developer of Firejail, so it's rock solid and security focused.


                    It's also currently number 18 on Distrowatch


                    [–]supamonkey2000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Parrot OS looks really cool, I'll add it in the next edit. Thanks!

                    [–]privacyfreak555 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Gentoo is for hardcore users, but many people say it has a more privacy friendly system, because it's not based on systemD which many people don't like.

                    Alpine and Trisquel are security / privacy based.

                    [–]vll_dk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Is this any good for Sites?

                    [–]peroduongo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                    where are the apps for ios?

                    [–]supamonkey2000[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                    Unfortunately as an Android user, I couldn't confidently list apps for iOS. I'll add a note that I need some assistance with iOS alternatives.

                    Many of the more mature alternatives do have iOS counterparts, but I didn't have an opportunity to look for them.

                    [–]ndgnuh 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                    What about Ecosia as web browser and search engine? Are those good enough to be in this list?

                    [–]supamonkey2000[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                    I couldn't find anything browser related for Ecosia but the search engine looks nice.

                    It doesn't seem to be privacy-focused exactly, but it does support a good cause. I'll add it for now unless someone finds a strong reason why it shouldn't be included.

                    [–]OfficialJohnGL4 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                    For F-Droid, I use Aurora Droid, they also used the same UI from Aurora Store.

                    Why I use this?

                    That's because F-Droid cannot detect updates that well, Aurora Droid is much better in detecting updates.


                    Aurora Droid is still have bugs, try it if you want.

                    Download: http://auroraoss.com/

                    [–]supamonkey2000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Looks interesting, I'll add it in the next edit. Thanks!

                    [–]droidonomy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                    I'd like to add Lawnchair for Android launchers (available on Fdroid), and Ghost as a blogging platform (open source, self-hosted or paid hosting).

                    Also why is Telegram listed as 5 Eyes?

                    [–]supamonkey2000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Oops, I had originally thought that Telegram was based in the UK from what my browser told me (Country Flag & IP Info extension). I've removed that since I see on their FAQ they are in Dubai. Thanks for catching that!

                    Lawnchair looks pretty good, I'll add that one as well.

                    [–]brais33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    For domains there is this site https://njal.la/

                    I have never used it but I think it has a good service

                    Also there is this website to raise privacy awareness https://theytrackyou.com

                    [–]Kentto7 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                    What a good post! Awesom complete guide on how to take back your privacy.

                    Regarding the Google Home point : please shut down your Google Home or Amazon Echo device(s) now!!!

                    Did some research, and they do in fact invade your privacy a lot. Google keeps all the audio logs in their server, and can use them to do pretty much whatever they want. Even if anonymized, it is your voice, making it much easier to identity who it is. Knowing Google keeps your IP, requires your name, surname, and birth date, they just need a small picture of you (if they don't already got one you put in G Drive or sent via Gmail) and have a quite complete profile of who you are.

                    I recommend Mycroft if you are interested like me in Personnal Assistant because of the tech that's behind it. Selling your current assistant will probably make you more than enough to buy 1 (or even 2) raspberry pi that you can use ot make your own Assistant using Mycroft. If you would rather buy a device with it installed, they do sell one. I believe they are working on version 2.0 of it. You chan check their website and the subreddit as well. I will probably email op so he can know about it.

                    [–]supamonkey2000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    That's a good point regarding IoT devices. I took a quick look at Mycroft and it looks pretty good, I might have to give it a try at some point. Thanks!

                    [–]bilange 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Also noteworthy for a replacement of Google Home (although I haven't test drived it yet): https://www.home-assistant.io/

                    [–]up-sky-7 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                    BitChute - Also decentralized/P2P. Powered by WebTorrent.

                    It's p2p over torrents but it is not decentralized (and it's also proprietary). If Bitchute goes down, end of story. Just for reference, if a PeerTube server goes down, the other 99.99% of them are UP so this means peertube is really decentralized.

                    [–]supamonkey2000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Interesting, I'll add that in the next edit. Thanks!

                    [–]up-sky-7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Google Home

                    - nothing. The only alternative for useless IoT is to not use any IoT. Bad for privacy, bad for security, freedom etc.

                    [–]HumbleBasis6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    So for domain hosting I have a recommendation! Requires 0 personal information, and allows multiple forms of payment. Really recommend it, check it out! https://njal.la/

                    [–]FrontierPsycho 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                    This has some overlap, and I've found it incredibly useful:


                    [–]supamonkey2000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    That was in last years guide but I forgot to add it this year, thanks for reminding me! I'll add it in the next edit

                    [–]yeah_It_dat_guy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Haven't seen this one yet, good stuff. Now it's got me trying to find a riseup invite lol

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                      [–]supamonkey2000[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                      I honestly don't know how that happens, I'm using only Markdown with no styling. I'm using old reddit dark mode with RES so it shows fine for me.

                      [–]bilange 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                      Awesome list. However I am a bit puzzled as to why Nextcloud and Syncthing (just to name those) are listed as 14/9 eyes. I use both of these services personally but not part of any 'federation' of Nextcloud/Syncthing instances. For example, in syncthing, I explicitely disable all external communications (global discovery and relaying in their settings), and open a single port for known external instances to phone in. Ultimately only known and trusted devices are part of my personal cloud.

                      So back to the question, is this simply because those projects are being made by / owned by people or entites from those countries?

                      [–]supamonkey2000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      Bullet point 5 in the Notes section says that it is the operating company. Sometimes this isn't always correct though as not all services list where they operate.

                      Last year it was weird because I only went on what the server IP was, but obviously this can change depending on your region, so I opted for where the company/organization is based.

                      For things like those that are self-hosted, the n-eyes doesn't really apply if it's configured in a way similar to how you have. Good question!

                      [–]R0B0LUT10N 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                      Some Firefox Add-Ons I use in addition to ones you've listed:

                      • ClearURLs
                      • Cloud Firewall
                      • CSS Exfil Protection
                      • Disconnect
                      • Don't touch my tabs (rel=noopener)
                      • Firefox Multi-Account Containers
                      • Google search link fix
                      • HTTPZ
                      • Link Cleaner
                      • Neat URL
                      • Privacy-Oriented Origin Policy
                      • Skip Redirect
                      • Temporary Containers

                      [–]supamonkey2000[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      That's an awesome list, thanks! I'll add them in the next edit. I've already added a few to my Waterfox install

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                        [–]supamonkey2000[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                        iOS is tricky because of how Apple locks down the operating system. I'm sure with jailbreaking there might be a third-party app, but I have yet to find one and I don't own any Apple devices to test with.

                        [–]apex_orgil 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Just few minutes ago I saw men’s face washing add on instagram. It never appeared on adds before. Couple hours ago I bought men’s face wash product but I paid with cash. Before I go to bed I washed my face with it then I grab my phone I saw a Gillette add on instagram. What is that? I didn’t mention this product to anyone, I never even searched it. I’m so shocked and I checked all my search history today from all the way back to 3 days, I never searched this kind of product I never did. Can anyone explain me this?

                        [–]oldosfan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        VS code doesn't work with Android like Android Studio.

                        [–]steamport 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                        Why is /e/there? https://ewwlo.xyz/evil.html

                        [–]supamonkey2000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Thanks for sharing, I'll update that section in the next edit.

                        [–]nintendiator2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        One thing this does notoriously not tackle is reCAPTCHA.

                        [–]maqp2 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                        You should add https://www.qownnotes.org/ as a recommendation for note taking. It is extremely usable and FOSS.

                        [–]supamonkey2000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        That looks great, thanks! I'll add it in the next edit

                        [–]xNick26 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                        No tresorit for an alternative drive solution? They also have a mobile app as well and our located in switzerland

                        [–]supamonkey2000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Looks like a great business solution (and they have a free tier for individuals). I'll add it in the next edit

                        [–]EbonixCo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Promise I’m not trying to call you out, but...you said you use LastPass. That’s a big nope from me. Go with an open source password manager like KeePass or Bitwarden.

                        [–]consentio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Add OpenContacts to the contacts list!

                        [–]Temporary_Selection 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        I've been moving away from google because I believe it is too big and its privacy and ethical violations are numerous. Kudos for the post. There are about a million ways everything you do can and will be taken out of context by these companies and others with a narrative to push. I think what will really help America is a right to be forgotten law. In the meantime tor/signal/encrypt/and tails the fuck out of everything.

                        [–]NJPW_Puroresu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        I would add, for android, the music player Odyssey . Nice alternative to any stock. (sorry if it doesn't fit the thread). Thanks for all your hard work, got so many new apps to try.

                        [–]zmeuka 0 points1 point  (0 children)


                        OsmAnd for navigation, offline maps

                        [–]Zomaarwat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        For translation, there is also Elan, and for cloud storage there is Stack-storage.

                        [–]PresidentSkro0b 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Just had my first very creepy Google experience. I was speaking with my mom on FaceTime via an iPad and she was showing me her latest quilting project.

                        Hours later, my Google News feed on my Android phone - separate device - showed me news stories for the best sewing machines for quilting.

                        There is no way that this is a coincidence. I've never searched anything regarding quilting before.

                        Is there any way to dive into the metadata to figure out what triggered the story to pop up on my feed? And is there an effort to deal with this other than broad GDPR style laws?

                        [–]cpnss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        I'd recommend Moodle as a Classroom substitute: https://moodle.org/

                        It's open source and needs to be hosted. Universities in Brazil have been using it for more than ten years.

                        [–]gmc93l2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Is Opera browser as good as Firefox in terms of privacy ?

                        [–]skysoft501 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        OH LORD!!! I just stumbled on a brand new universe!!!

                        [–]Al-Suri 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Man I love Reddit

                        edit: Actually, wait, is Reddit a good website with respect to privacy?

                        [–]LilShaver 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Thank you for this awesome post!

                        Here are a couple of things I do.

                        I recommend AdNauseum over uBlockOrigin. It's the same base code, but AdNauseum "clicks" every single add for you, so any existing profile on you becomes useless. Google also gets charged back for the clicks from folks who buy ads from them.

                        Windows users should take a look at the Pale Moon browser - FireFox base but blocks reporting to Google, which FF now does.

                        Also, not actually privacy related but still important IMO, check out the Dissenter browser and browser plugin. This allows user comments on every page on the 'Net.

                        I had read that OwnCloud was compromised.

                        You can run NextCloud on a RaspPi and plug in an external drive for the file/image hosting.

                        [–]DashEquals 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Suggestion for music: Funkwhale. It lets you upload your library exactly like Google Play Music does. It's also self-hosted.

                        [–]tortugavelozzzz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Hi there,

                        I have to assume that many of the recommended Firefox plugins need access to everything I'm viewing online, in order to automatically deal with cookies, provide ratings and other free services. And while I love freedom from advertisers and automatic profiling, I'm still concerned about one thing:

                        Which of those could be legally subpoenaed to provide a browsing history within the USA jurisdiction?